Bill Simmons is Still Pissed
So I'm perusing The Sports Guy's most recent column over at ESPN.com, a premature farewell to Boston Celtics Head Coach Glenn "Doc" Rivers - all you can really do with a column that long is peruse it, after all, it can't really be read - and suddenly I realize that the piece has veered sharply off course and I find myself squarely in the middle of a dissertation about why the world doesn't need beat writers or columnists.
Vintage Bill Simmons, right there.
Now, don't get me wrong: I don't have much fondness for a lot of the garbage I read in the mainstream media, written by guys who went to the best journalism schools in the country, as you may have noticed recently. I always chortle lightly when I hear Mike Greenberg from the Mike and Mike in the Morning show on ESPN radio reference his journalism degree from Northwestern, because all I can think is that he could have saved himself the time and money and just went to the Connecticut School of Broadcasting. Why do you need a degree from Northwestern to act like a dolt on the radio every morning for four hours?
Mike, why don't you "man up" as you're so fond of saying, and actually get a job where you do some journalism? That's actual, real investigation and writing, Mike - I know, it's been a long time, but I think you could do it if you concentrated hard enough.
And of course you have Mike Lupica at the Daily News, who has become so obsessed with the Bush administration and all of its perceived faults that he's turned what was once an okay sports column into an annoying and misplaced political op-ed piece. Yeah, and Jay Mariotti is pretty much a joke at this point.
I won't be an apologist for the mainstream media, either - they don't need me to do it, and I don't want to do it. But, this diatribe by Bill Simmons in his recent column shouldn't be allowed to stand:
This speaks to a whole 'nother issue: When I started writing columns for my old Web site and built a miniscule base of loyal readers, the local establishment (the Globe, Herald and WEEI) pooh-poohed me in a variety of ways. At first, they played the "nobody's reading him" card. Once it became apparent that some people WERE reading me, they switched to the "he doesn't matter, he doesn't come into the clubhouse card," which was funny because I wanted to infiltrate the clubhouses. Unfortunately, this was the late '90s -- when you told someone you wrote an Internet sports column, they reacted like you were selling knives door-to-door. Really? You get paid for that? I didn't have a chance in hell of getting a press pass from any local team. Not being allowed in clubhouses was the best thing that could have happened -- it forced me to think outside the box, write from the fan's perspective, try to anticipate potential column ideas before everyone else and offer something different from newspapers. In time, I came to realize that you didn't need a press pass to write an entertaining column about sports. So thank you, everyone who blackballed me.
Now it's 2006 and I'm wondering if a press pass does any good. Unlike the old days, basketball reporters rarely get extra access anymore -- it's just the same herd of writers hovering around the same people, day after day, writing down the same boring quotes from the same group of bored people who just want them to go away. Unlike the old days, we can watch every minute of every game on TV. We can watch the postgame press conferences. We can watch highlights and sound bites on ESPN. We can argue about the team with other fans on message boards and blogs. By the time most newspaper stories are published, the news always feels a little dated. I'm telling you from experience -- it's possible to follow a professional basketball team without reading the local beat writers now. I do it every day.
It's just a different world. For instance, reading the Boston papers as they sorted through the wreckage of a shocking Patriots loss, the Herald reporters (John Tomase and Michael Felger, both of whom do a good job) played up the relative discontent in the locker room, with a couple of veterans openly declaring that they had been outplayed and outcoached. And that's exactly how the Herald guys should have played it; it was the best newspaper angle to take. On the other hand, they had been outplayed and outcoached -- anyone who watched the game already knew that. So why was this a big deal? Isn't that like interviewing Britney and having her say, "In retrospect, maybe I shouldn't have married K-Fed"? Thinking over the past 10 months of Boston sports, I can't remember a single time when somebody with "inside access" helped elucidate something about the Red Sox, Patriots or Celtics that I couldn't have figured out myself.
Damn, there's so much wrong with that longwinded bit of pomposity, I don't know where to begin.
First, let's start with the idea that one can write an entertaining column about sports without having a press pass: hey, that's insightful! I present to you: blogging! Alas, the argument here is not whether you can write an entertaining column about a game, or a team, the argument is whether that column will have the depth of detail or subtle touches that you might find in a column written by a person who spends most of their time with the players, coaches and front office folks the way beat writers and columnists do.
The answer to that is quite obviously no, because it's really apples and oranges. To say that you are fully informed on a game (or a team) because you watched the game from your couch and then watched blurbs from the postgame interviews is just, well, dumb. You don't see the guy who's limping through warmups, you don't appreciate the angst of the head coach, you don't see Carlos Delgado and Carlos Beltran on the field hours after a game practicing their swings together, you don't hear the chatter on the team flight, you don't watch the coaches go over plays, you don't see the work ethic of a player in practice.
All you see is the game. That's it.
Essentially, as I understand it, the point that Mr. Simmons is making is as follows: res ipsa loquitur. For any of you out there who were smart enough to steer clear of law school, where they turn bright, creative kids into aggravating, obnoxious and dispirited adults, the phrase means "the thing speaks for itself." Simmons believes that the game and the postgame comments speak for themselves, and need no further illumination from a guy with a press pass.
Let's take that idea step further, shall we? If the guy with the press pass can't give you any information that you can't glean from watching the game on television, how in hell can a blogger enlighten you? How can a guy who watched the game from his family room, getting up during commercials to let the dog out and fix a burrito, how can he provide any additional insight? By Simmons' logic, none of us should bother writing about sports because everything about every game and every team is obvious to every one of us who watches the games and the postgame comments.
So, inadvertently of course, Simmons has not only obliterated any use for mainstream beat writers and columnists, he has done the same to alternative sports media, like bloggers. If we all have the same access to the same information and can take the same things away from it, there's no need for anyone to write anything that includes information or analysis about any sporting event. It's right in front of our eyes, just look!
At the end of the day, the alternative Internet media provides the same service to the public that the mainstream media does: reporting and entertaining. Mainstream writers and columnists do, however, have access to information that the rest of us don't, and occasionally they put that information to good use. Whereas, while bloggers may not have access to that information, they can present whatever analysis and angles they come up with in a less structured, more informal and, thus, possibly, more entertaining way. Where is the mutual exclusivity, Bill?
Would I want to live in a world where I couldn't get an account of a game, or analysis of a team, from a guy who actually followed the team every day? A world where the only source of information about a team came from a guy like Bill Simmons, who watched the game on television the same as me?
Of course not. (The thought actually makes me a little ill.)
Again, it's apples and oranges.
So, then, why is it that a guy like Bill Simmons, who knows better, really, would take the ridiculous position that mainstream sports coverage adds no value and should probably just be eliminated altogether?
Just read that first paragraph from his column again, there's your answer. Bill Simmons is pissed, and he's not letting it go.
In the same way that you'll find the mainstream media carping about alternative media, referring to them as uninformed and irresponsible and even depicting them as a bunch of kids living in their parents' basements, because they're threatened by the idea that mainstream media is becoming less relevant, you'll find guys like Bill Simmons out there who will urge the banishment of mainstream sports coverage because they were treated badly by the establishment at some point and harbor resentment about it.
Dang, can't we all just get along? There is a need and a market for mainstream sports media, just as there is a need and a market for alternative sports media: again, apples and oranges.
And, oh by the way, here's the delicious irony in all of this: Bill Simmons gets paid enormous amounts of money to write for ESPN.com. And that, friends, is about as mainstream as it gets.






22 Comments:
AAAHHHHHMEN!!!!!!!
"all you can really do with a column that long is peruse it, after all, it can't really be read "
I find Simmons to be very entertaining, but you make a very valid and logical argument here.
This is a great example of what's come to be called "blogger triumphalism": a self-aggrandizing denunciation of the "mainstream media" by a blogger who is, in fact, parasitic on those MSM primary sources for his commentary. It's just a matter of someone losing perspective and buying into their own bullshit.
Also, once I got used to "The Sports Guy" column formula, I found him really tedious to read. But, before that, it was a fun couple months.
Peruse-v-to read through with thoroughness or care. Loved the unneeded Latin though. It allowed you to get a boring paragraph out of a boring sentence.
I like to throw around the Latin once in a while, keeps you on your toes.
And, I loved the unneeded comment, though, it allowed you to get a boring comment out of a boring sentence from a boring paragraph.
I think you miss his point, which is odd, because you make his point in your second & third paragraph.
you knock mike & mike for being pointless and banal - Simmons makes the same point about most beat writers. fine, you get access and can see the inside bs-ery that occurs. the beat writer needs to get that point across to the readers, and most newswriters do an incredibly poor job of it.
Most sports beat writers columns are as insightful as the sideline reporter's interview with the coach in the middle of a game.
he's not saying that press passes and beat writers are useless, just that most beat writers don't use those passes to create value for the reader.
your knocking of blogs is funny -- how indeed could a blog know more about the game? in the past year, i've seen blogs that covered poor clock management, bad personnel choices, and f'ed up formations, that i haven't seen a lick about on ESPN or in my local news (dls morning news).
so you have access. congratulations. now use it for something other than free lunch at the buffet table.
beans, I disagree, I think he's saying both things - that the beat writers and columnists don't use their passes to create value AND, accordingly, that they are redundant and unnecessary - he specifically lists the things he does, ie watching the game, the postgame, arguing about the team on boards, and then says that it's possible to follow the team without reading beat reports. Then he says that he doesn't remember an insightful mainstream column on Boston sports in the last 10 months.
To me, that means he thinks they aren't necessary.
I see a lot of beat writing that's excellent - Ben Shpigel of the Times on the Mets is a good example and there are many others. Sure, some of it sucks - but then, some blogs suck too. (In fact, you might think this one does.)
Talk about "perusing" a column - you really think anyone cares about some failed blogger's thoughts on a much more successful writer?
I thought his main point was that Ryan wouldn't bash Rivers because of their personal relationship; that the years of "access" Ryan had was either blinding him to the obvious problems there, or making him unwilling to write about those problems honestly.
A beat reporter should have access to the team; but columnists who voice their opinions while depending on access may have a conflict of interest that an outside voice wouldn't have.
If access is preventing columnists from being objective in their commentary, and isn't adding much value otherwise to their reporting, it's probably not doing much for the reader.
Anyways, I think you missed that point...maybe if you had actually perused it, you might have noticed that he had an actual point.
E pluribus unum, Einstein...
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good entry, though
Fantastic article. Simmons hit his peak during the 2004 playoffs. After that, it became painful to read him. The funniest part about Simmons is his hatred of everything Los Angeles, but he doesn't seem to be in a hurry to move back to Boston. Why not? It seems the only places he goes to are The Grove(a mall) and Clippers games(a bore), so why not move to a city you enjoy if you have no intention of entering a press box or club house?
"law school, where they turn bright, creative kids into aggravating, obnoxious and dispirited adults..."
...in other words, law school turns you into a sportswriter.
I have to wonder what the motivation would be for a disinterested party to take the time and effort to post a comment that is designed to insult the author, a relatively anonymous blogger, even a "failed blogger" as one commmenter has suggested, of a relatively innocuous column like this.
Looks like the Friends of Bill are here to defend his honor. So, that's funny.
I'm just impressed that you reply to comments. This doesn't change the fact that you are irrelevant, though.
Chesser,
I like that there is now a clinical term called "blogger triumphalism." Talking about buying into "someone's own bullshit."
Also humiliating is your attempt at defamation by calling a person's use of the mainstream medias' information "parasitic."
In fact this individual is in support of the information provided by the mainstream, which, by your definition, would be this "parasite's" host. If anything, I see this article as a rare example of mutualism between the mainstream and the alternative.
While it is true the vilification of corporate media is used as a tool by bloggers who sit around and whack off to their Site
Meters, this particular column is a outstanding example of why I read blogs first and the rest later.
Chesser, you are a great example of what's come to be called "Transparrent Egocentrism." And despite trying to introduce us to a new term for criticism, you have only succeeded in making yourself seem bitter, naive, and outdated. Good show, Jeff.
The best "everyman" blog posts insert random Latin quotes, then instead of realizing that I'm on the Internet reading your crap and a 5 second Google search away from decoding it anyway, you have to wait a beat and then insert the translation to allow us little people the opportunity to step up to your level of hack sports writing commentary. Hack commentary on hack commentary? Just how deep does this a**hole go?
Hey "Bill" welcome to the site, glad to have you! So, now that you've checked in we've got hack commentary on hack commentary on hack commentary! Wonderful!
(I'm pretty sure you don't need to "decode" anything I write here at Metsquire, but, hey, knock yourself out.)
So if bloggers are parasitic, then commenters of bloggers must be like single cell organisms on the MSM food chain. Or maybe a virus? Who knows- the comments here are incredible, you would think the metsquire guy was giving a dissertation on world peace by how serious some are taking him...
Jeff- never mind these guys, keep doing what your doing. I'm sure all these bitter commenters would give their left nut to be linked to Deadspin- that is, even if they have the ability to blog at all. Its far easier to tear down than it is to build something, and it seems like jealousy to me to take the time to post attacks on a guy's blog. Why even bother if you hate it so much? So good job... As one of my favorite quotes says, "It you don't have enemies then you're not doing anything right."
jonwolfson,
I guess I wasn't clear in my original comment, because you (and, maybe, x-man) have taken my point completely backwards. I consider Simmons a blogger, and he's the "blogger triumphalist" I was talking about. I realize that ESPN.com is certainly part of the mainstream media, so my point was a bit murky--but it's Simmons who I was criticizing. I agree with everything Jeff wrote in his post. The "parasitic" analogy was a reference to how dependent bloggers often are on the primary reporting done by traditional media (whose work the bloggers link to and comment on), while they criticize those same media sources. This is the trap I think The Sports Guy fell into in his column. It's something you see a lot on blogs these days, and I was just pointing that out.
But, to be fair to jonwolfson, you don't write very well, so you can hardly be expected to read very well.
Holy cow!!! Some nasty comments and some supportive comments. Me thinks that some friends of Bill have been heard from. And some friends of Jeff.
Keep up the good work Jeff. I like your work. I also think you can read and write. Carpe Diem, Dude.
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